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Created On: 08/30/2008 12:26 PM
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 08/30/2008 12:26 PM
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mom2shawn

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Hi guys I have a question, can constipation cause seizures? As all of you know Shawn has had a bad week and a half or so and he has been constipated but last night we took care of that and we went to the restroom and so far this morning he has had no seizures. So any information would be great.
Thanks Tonya

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 08/30/2008 12:32 PM
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1234alex

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yes, altho sometimes they are vasovagal sz, not epileptic sz, but I have heard of constipation being a trigger sometimes.

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 08/31/2008 07:58 AM
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adamsmom

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Tonya,

I don't have any info on it, but it sure does sound like it could be related for Shawn! So glad to see that he had a "great" day yesterday and hoping that continues for a long time for him!

Keep us updated how things are going when you can!

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 08/31/2008 11:55 AM
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pamjo

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Some of my daughter's worst sz episodes were (I think) related to being constipated. Glad things cleared up for you guys.

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Pam
Mama of Josie, 8 years old with schizencephaly (brain abnormality) and uncontrolled seizures. Was on Topamax for years. Currently on Depakote, Lamictal and Keppra. Looking into diet treatments.
 08/31/2008 12:20 PM
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a&amom

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I have read hear and on living well with Epilepsy about szrs while on the toilet. you might also want to ask on that forum too.

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Mommy to Angus 1 year old! &
Alastair 3 1/2 yrs who has Idiopathic Primary Generalized Epilepsy...
dx Nov/2007-TC & Drops & Myolconic szrs & absence szrs--tried carbamazapine, zonegran...current is Keppra 5ml am & 5ml pm and topamax 30 mg 2xaday--35lbs--cut back on sugar---have had good szr control since July 3rd...
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 09/01/2008 02:36 PM
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terryhouse2

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I'm new to this but have noticed that my son has things that "look" like seizures but are not when he's witholding stool. Because we're going through all the testing now I searched Neurology Journal and found an article titled: "Stool-withholding activity mimicking epilepsy" and it explains that stool-withholding can cause non-epileptic seizure spells that lead to a misdiagnosis of epilepsy. There is a case study of a 5 year old who was put on AEDs because of an abnormal spike and wave pattern in an eeg as well as these absnece-type episodes. When the AED's didn't work they ordered a video EEG and were able to show no brain-wave changes during the episodes and sent the kid to a gastero doc. He was treated for the chronic constipation and has not had a "seizure" since. Aparently the abnormal spikes and waves can occur in children who are not epileptic and the spells were misdiagnosed. I'm not saying this is true for everyone and I'm sure constipation could be a trigger for real epileptic seizures, but the article is of interest to me because I want to rule this out for sure before trying the AEDs. Anyway, the article cost me $20 to download from Neurology but it's worth it for me to have on hand to take to a doc. You can google "stool-withholding activity mimicking epilepsy" to find a copy for yourself. My son never poops without me forcing him to go... for some reason he hates the way it feels. When he has these spells he gets on the ground, sometimes jerks a bit, turns a strange color and speaks much more slowly. Sometimes his eyes roll some. He has no post icthyl stage at all and can speak through them. I'm starting to wonder if his "seizures" the other day were the same thing but I was thinking "seizure" because he also had a fever at the same time.... Anyway, something to consider...
 09/01/2008 08:09 PM
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jjbeck

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Oh yes ... constipation can cause seizures and some believe seizures can possibly cause constipation.
We use cal/mag/zinc to keep Ava reg.
Possibly the mag is an added benefit in sz control and the zinc seems to help keep down the number of illnesses.

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Jen, mom to 4 y/o with epilepsy, ehlers danlos syndrome & left hemiplegia from stroke. Past meds include Lamictal & Trileptal. On LGIT since 2006.



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 09/02/2008 12:24 AM
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elsasmom

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We see the correlation between constipation and seizures. In Elsa's case, the stress of constipation absolutely worsens her absence seizures. (She just went through a week like you described.) Conversely, I suspect the seizures may be aggravating the intestinal process and worsening the constipation.

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Delaine, mom to wonderful 4 yr old girl.
Dx IGE 1/08. Typical absence seizures (simple/complex). Myoclonus at 18 mos.
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 09/02/2008 04:24 PM
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mom2shawn

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Thanks everybody

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Mom of three, Shawn who has failed 90% of meds looking to have surgery or VNS, twin bother Shane and big sis Chelsie

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